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BD-4C Landing Practice in a Cessna 172

March 25, 2018 Art Zemon

There are not any Bede BD-4 airplanes near me and I wanted some landing practice so I decided to make do with the tool on hand: a Cessna 172. The Cessna, flaps up, stalls at about the same speed as the Bede BD-4C with the flaps down. I rented a Cessna 172 and took it out for some flaps up landings.

  1. I flew downwind (parallel to the runway) at 90 knots (104 MPH)
  2. I flew crosswind at 80 knots (92 MPH)
  3. I flew final approach at 70 knots (81 MPH)

This one minute video starts just before I make the turn from crosswind to final. If you have never been in the front seat of an airplane as it lands, I think you will like this.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Aviation/In-Flight-Video/i-pLrBMGN/0/8b76b338/1280/Cessna%20172%20landing-1280.mp4

 

The Cessna stalls, flaps up, at 58 knots. Crossing the threshold at 70 knots is kind of fast. As the wing settled into ground effect, the plane floated a long way down the runway, bleeding off speed, before it was done flying and the wheels settled onto the pavement. For today’s purpose, though, that was OK. I just wanted to get a feel for what it was like to fly the whole pattern 10-15 knots faster than I was accustomed to doing in my Piper Arrow.

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  1. John Brecher says

    March 26, 2018 at 12:29 pm

    I tried a Comanche 180 as it has laminar flow wing and such. It was NOTHING like the BD-4! The 4 is very speed sensitive. 75 and it falls out of the air. 85 and it floats forever. 80 and it sets down perfectly. Not sure if the C model changes but the original was not happy under 100 MPH. The ailerons were not enough down there. The stick was knee to knee to get things to happen.
    I would certainly get time in the BD-4C before flight. Had a young man in Cedar Rapids who got impatient to fly his tail dragger and didn’t wait for some BD-4 time. Got tailwheel time in a Cub. First flight he ended up in the intersection of main runways at Cedar Rapids airport upside down!

    • Art Zemon says

      March 26, 2018 at 9:26 pm

      Thanks for your words of warning, John! I know that the Cessna 172 doesn’t land like the BD-4. But I was able to get a feel fro what it is like to fly the pattern that fast and that’s better than nothing. Besides, it was a nice day for flying and practicing crosswind landings. 🙂

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